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Posted by ross on December 26, 2001, at 21:48:18
give me some feedback from users on what disorders this drug is good for. also is it activating as in a bad way??
thanks
ross
Posted by IsoM on December 27, 2001, at 3:00:48
In reply to Provigil..what is it good for?, posted by ross on December 26, 2001, at 21:48:18
Ross, I don't take Provigil (modafinil) but do take Olmifon (adrafinil) - same family & possibly the same effects, though Provigil's been studied more for treatment of sleep disorders.
I was just reading yesterday a study done on adrafinil, & one of the two metabolites from adrafinil is modafinil anyway & it's thought that perhaps most of the effects of adrafinil may be due to modafinil as a metabolite. I'll give you an idea of what it does for me, but because a user's chemistry can vary & the disorders we suffer from may be completely different.
Adrafinil stimulates me but in a way completely different from Dexedrine (Adderall) & Ritalin. It gives me an alertness, focus, & awakefulness but without NONE of the slightly jittery feeling I get with the other stims, like I can't hold still once I get going. Because I have ADHD (among other things), I find stims gives me a focus but on everything. Kind of like a hearing aid helping a person hear better, but not just conversations - everything is louder & it's harder to pick out individual sounds. Well, stims makes everything for me seem brighter & more alert but not in a disciplined way. I can flit like a hummingbird from one thing to another without actually accomplishing much. Adrafinil lets me calmly focus on what I'm doing & actually complete projects too. It's a very calm, mellow alertness. I don't feel super-hyper on it like stims.
I find that longer term effects from adrafinil also include a more restful sleep. I normally wake 3-8 times a night & after being on adrafinil for about 3 weeks, I started waking only once or twice. Once I slept through the whole night - first time I EVER recall doing that, even as a child! Mind you, while I always had trouble sleeping deeply or for long, I could still fall asleep in the daytime even after taking Dexedrine - I could sleep through a dose if it wasn't real high. With adrafinil, I no longer was sleeping & yawning constantly, I stayed awake & bright through the entire day.
My memeory also improved immensely. Perhaps not so much long term (I haven't been on it long enough), but my short-term, or working memory as I call it, is now very good. I no longer need to tape up notes for myself all over the house. I simply remember! No longer do I feel scatter-brained.
For me, everything about adrafinil (& presumably modafinl) is absolutely wonderful!! No side-effects, nothing! I never realised how it felt to be "normal" before. To me, alertness always meant hyper & jumpy, while calm meant almost asleep. I never knew the two could go together. I have been on Xanax (alprazolam) & Dexedrine at the same time & it gives me a feeling similar to the combination but with *motivation*, something I've never had before. And the alertness & motivation is even & level. It doesn't wear off through the day but next morning before I take my pill again, I still feel mellow yet alert.
Please excuse me for running on so long but I'm still blown away with how fantastic it works for me. I'm sure many wouldn't get the same benefit due to physical differences, but I can't say enough good about it.
Here's the study on adrafinil, if you're interested:
http://www.nevapress.com/cnsdr/full/5/3/193.pdf
*****************************************************************************************************> give me some feedback from users on what disorders this drug is good for. also is it activating as in a bad way??
> thanks
> ross
Posted by ross on December 27, 2001, at 7:08:17
In reply to Re: Provigil..what is it good for? » ross, posted by IsoM on December 27, 2001, at 3:00:48
thanks IsoM.
ive been reading about this med for social phobia.
does anyone take it for this and have any good effects?
ross
Posted by ross on December 27, 2001, at 9:04:07
In reply to Re: Provigil..what is it good for?, posted by ross on December 27, 2001, at 7:08:17
anyone have any positive results?
ross
Posted by IsoM on December 27, 2001, at 11:22:11
In reply to Provigil for social phobia??, posted by ross on December 27, 2001, at 9:04:07
Ross, I don't have social phobia but can attest to the ease I feel around crowds with adrafinil. I feel more relaxed & sociable with it - ready to smile & chat with strangers even. My friends have noticed the difference too. They say I just act & look so much better & wondered why.
It would be good to hear from someone though, who really does have soical phobia & has used this.
Here's an earlier thread from this forum of the same question as yours about the best drug for social phobia. JohnL was a frequent poster on this site & it was from reading his posts on adrafinil that I became interested in it. He insists that adrafinil is one of the best meds for social phobia. I've no longer seen him here - as a person's mood brightens, they seem to post less frequently.
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/20000603/msgs/35977.html******************************************************************************************************
> anyone have any positive results?
> ross
Posted by Elizabeth on December 28, 2001, at 15:19:37
In reply to Provigil..what is it good for?, posted by ross on December 26, 2001, at 21:48:18
It's a weak stimulant and lacks the cardiovascular side effects of amphetamine and related drugs. Doctors have been prescribing it for depression, daytime sleepiness, ADD, etc. It seems to help a lot of people. It's very long-acting so you only need to take it once a day. Its main disadvantage seems to be its cost (which is a lot).
-elizabeth
Posted by IsoM on December 28, 2001, at 15:50:00
In reply to Re: Provigil, posted by Elizabeth on December 28, 2001, at 15:19:37
For me, Elizabeth, adrafinil (Olmifon) is a weak stimulant on my physical system, but mentally & emotionally, it's a stronger stimulant than Dexedrine or Ritalin. I can't speak for modafinil (Provigil) but only adrafinil. Still, it's more effective in keeping me awake than Dexedrine. I can fall asleep even when I'm on Dexedrine. I've taken my dose & ended giving up & crawling into bed & sleeping through it all. On adrafinil, I have no need to go to bed & sleep during the day, though I probably could. I've just never needed to. Provigil IS expensive which is why I use Olmifon - much, much cheaper.
> It's a weak stimulant and lacks the cardiovascular side effects of amphetamine and related drugs. Doctors have been prescribing it for depression, daytime sleepiness, ADD, etc. It seems to help a lot of people. It's very long-acting so you only need to take it once a day. Its main disadvantage seems to be its cost (which is a lot).
>
> -elizabeth
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