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Posted by TheOutsider on October 1, 2003, at 6:51:39
Sorry this post will be quite breef because I tride to post twice already and got cut of!
I think I suffer from some form of ADD inattentive type. I find it really hard to get focused or motivated for anything that doesn't really interest me. Also disorganised, tend to procrastinate e.c.t
I'm also dyslexic, is there a link? Appologies for spelling!I don't know if this is ADD or some kind of unmotivated depression, but I don't feel depressed.
If any one could shed any light on how to get treatment in the UK especially recommending doctors I would be really gratefull. My GP will only prescribe SSRIs.
Posted by pixygoth on October 1, 2003, at 7:33:19
In reply to Help is this ADD? Treatment options in UK, posted by TheOutsider on October 1, 2003, at 6:51:39
Are you *only* dyslexic? My brother is just on the edge of being dyspraxic (used to be "clumsy child syndrome") and has (as well as hellish handwriting) no organisational skills at all and gets by on wit rather than study etc. Dyslexia and so on are definitely linked to other forms of neurological 'stuff' - but if you're not depressed (and if you don't feel it then you're not), you probably shouldn't rush into medication.
Posted by DSCH on October 1, 2003, at 12:52:56
In reply to Help is this ADD? Treatment options in UK, posted by TheOutsider on October 1, 2003, at 6:51:39
Inattentive type ADD is pretty close to where my mark was a few months ago, though "adrenal exhaustion" also presumably was in the picture too.
I do not know what the consensus take on ADD/ADHD is by psychiatrists in the UK.
Here in the US you won't find many willing to further dissect ADD in the manner that Amen has (I assume you are at least a little familar with him through your use of the term 'inattentive-type ADD').
That said, meds specifically targeted at boosting norepinepherine (aka noradrenaline) would appear to be the best bet in my non-professional opinion for both classic ADHD and inattentive-type ADD. These include reboxetine, atomoxetine, and the tricyclic desipramine (and possibly nortriptyline as well).
While methylphenidate can be very effective I am a bit wary of pstims, especially when they fade rapidly and require multiple dosing during the day.
I have had some success with complete vitamin/mineral supplementation, and the amino acids L-tyrosine, D- and L-phenylalanine (DLPA). Other things worth trying might include Pycnogenol or grape seed extract and something I am just starting a trial of: yohimbe tincture. But those are best discussed over on the alternative board.
Posted by Francesco on October 2, 2003, at 10:19:57
In reply to Re: Help is this ADD? Treatment options in UK » TheOutsider, posted by DSCH on October 1, 2003, at 12:52:56
Hi again, what do you mean with "some success" with supplements ? Could you rate this success compared with the effect of stims ? (for ex. stims: 7/10 supplements: 5/10 ;-)
May I ask you what was the main cause that brought you to quit stims ?
about Strattera ... of course it's not yet available in Italy (don't know about UK) but a p-doc told me that within two months there will be a new ADHD med out in our medioeval country ;-) could be Strattera ? I hope it. (considering where I live maybe the new med is Imipramine ;-)
Posted by DSCH on October 2, 2003, at 11:29:59
In reply to Re: Help is this ADD? Treatment options in UK » DSCH, posted by Francesco on October 2, 2003, at 10:19:57
> Hi again, what do you mean with "some success" with supplements ? Could you rate this success compared with the effect of stims ? (for ex. stims: 7/10 supplements: 5/10 ;-)
> May I ask you what was the main cause that brought you to quit stims ?
> about Strattera ... of course it's not yet available in Italy (don't know about UK) but a p-doc told me that within two months there will be a new ADHD med out in our medioeval country ;-) could be Strattera ? I hope it. (considering where I live maybe the new med is Imipramine ;-)Can't ever keep our discussions bottled up in a single thread for long, can we Francesco? ;-) LOL
Let's leave that for PB Alternative (Yohimbe/yohimbine thread) so we don't bewilder TheOutsider and make Dr. Bob do a redirect. :-)
Posted by DSCH on October 2, 2003, at 11:36:46
In reply to Help is this ADD? Treatment options in UK, posted by TheOutsider on October 1, 2003, at 6:51:39
More to the point of your main question, you can take Dr. Amen's online checklists to see if ADD is a strong possibility as well as which of his subtypes you might have.
http://www.amenclinic.com/ac/addtests/
But note this is his take on ADD. I doubt you'll find a pdoc in the UK who agrees with him wholeheartedly. He's something of a maverick in the US psychiatric community to begin with.
Posted by Dr. Bob on October 2, 2003, at 19:10:42
In reply to Supplements vs Pstims? take it to PB Alternative » Francesco , posted by DSCH on October 2, 2003, at 11:29:59
> Can't ever keep our discussions bottled up in a single thread for long, can we Francesco? ;-) LOL
>
> Let's leave that for PB Alternative (Yohimbe/yohimbine thread) so we don't bewilder TheOutsider and make Dr. Bob do a redirect. :-)Thanks again, here's a link:
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/alter/20030903/msgs/264741.html
Bob
Posted by DSCH on October 2, 2003, at 21:40:17
In reply to Redirect: Supplements vs Pstims?, posted by Dr. Bob on October 2, 2003, at 19:10:42
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