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Posted by Meltingpot on January 20, 2010, at 13:43:34
Hi,
I'm back on Seroxat and have been for about 4 weeks. I feel better than I did when completely off medication but I feel like it's working about as well as it did when it stopped working (if you know what I mean). I found that when I take 30mg which is what she prescribed I feel very flat and still have some anxiety but if I take 40mg I feel a bit better although I still feel tired.
I decided to add 300mg of Wellbutrin (I haven't told my psychiatrist about this) to the Seroxat about 3 weeks ago and I have been feeling incredibly drowsy, almost like I did when I started taking 200mg of Lamictal. I'm sure it's the Wellbutrin (not the Paxil) I don't understand, I thought it was supposed to energise people and offset SSRIs but it is not doing that at all. I have more energy after taking Zyprexa (and that's supposed to be sedating) so I'm confused.
I've done a search on Wellbutrin and drowsiness and have found a few people who have complained of this affect but then they don't go on to say whether it went away or not.
I'm not sure whether to stop the Wellbutrin or to give it more time. Also I'm worried as I'm supposed to be seeing the Psychiatrist on 30th January and if I carry on taking the Wellbutrin I'm not going to be able to give her an accurate assessment of how I'm doing on the Paxil. I could just make something up and say it is working as well as it used to I suppose but then I can't be 100% sure of that.
Can somebody please advise.
Denise
Posted by bleauberry on January 20, 2010, at 18:26:26
In reply to Wellbutrin drowsiness ????, posted by Meltingpot on January 20, 2010, at 13:43:34
The addition of Wellbutrin to an SSRI caused me:
Extreme drowsiness.
Extreme lack of motivation.
Extreme sexual dysfunction.Exactly the opposite of what is commonly expected from Wellbutrin.
Why, I don't know. Sometimes, that's just the way it is and we don't know why.
The same thing with Zypexa being somewhat stimulating instead of sedating.
I don't think an explanation is of much help, even if we had one. The main thing to do is listen to what your body is telling you, and go with what feels good, avoid what feels bad, and care less about explaining any of it.
Posted by rjlockhart04-08 on January 20, 2010, at 20:19:45
In reply to Wellbutrin drowsiness ????, posted by Meltingpot on January 20, 2010, at 13:43:34
sometimes Wellbutrin does act like "ritilin" but to a very small extent, there's no "high" or anything. But it works the same way Ritilin does, one thing I noticed with Ritilin is it makes you "tired" but "focused" sometimes it made me depressed, because that's a side effect from stimulants.
Wellbutrin is a mild stimulant that only deals with nerve synpase reuptake of dopamine and norephinrine, yet that could be why it's making you tired.
I take Zyprexa 10mg and if I don't take it i'm just feel "crazy", too much "thoughts" at once.
Hope that helps
Posted by Phillipa on January 20, 2010, at 22:17:18
In reply to Re: Wellbutrin drowsiness ????, posted by rjlockhart04-08 on January 20, 2010, at 20:19:45
To illustrate how different we all are one week of 150mg of wellbutrin and benzos I was hospitalized as appeared hypomanic to pdoc seeing at the time. Phillipa
Posted by Meltingpot on January 21, 2010, at 16:16:23
In reply to Re: Wellbutrin drowsiness ????, posted by bleauberry on January 20, 2010, at 18:26:26
Bleauberry,
Thanks for this, at least I know I'm not imagining things and that I'm not totally alone with this (as most people say they find it stimulating).
I was hoping that it would offset the Seroxat as the practice of adding Wellbutrin to SSRIs seems to be so common but I guess it's not going to work for me (as usual).
Are you taking anything at the moment? I know you have been raving about Milnaciprin. I just remember years ago before you had ECT you were in quite a bad state whilst on Lamictal (I think) but over the last few years you always seem to come across as fairly positive in your messages. Is this because you suffer from bipolar and are going through a fairly good period?
Denise
Posted by Meltingpot on January 21, 2010, at 16:17:45
In reply to Re: Wellbutrin drowsiness ????, posted by rjlockhart04-08 on January 20, 2010, at 20:19:45
Hi,
Thanks for your response. I guess then I wouldn't respond so well to stimulants either.
Denise
Posted by Meltingpot on January 21, 2010, at 16:19:22
In reply to Re: Wellbutrin drowsiness ????, posted by Phillipa on January 20, 2010, at 22:17:18
Hi,
That is really odd, are you sure you do not suffer from bipolar disorder? Why didn't you stay on it, did you feel really awful?
Denise
Posted by bleauberry on January 21, 2010, at 17:59:55
In reply to Re: Wellbutrin drowsiness - bleauberry, posted by Meltingpot on January 21, 2010, at 16:16:23
> Are you taking anything at the moment?No. Well, not unless one considers 3.3mg Nortriptyline to be anything. Other than that, I take Diflucan every other day or so. I know for sure I have a fungal problem now, probably in the brain as well, long story, but Diflucan took me by surprise.
>I know you have been raving about Milnaciprin.
Well, maybe I shouldn't rave too much. Though it is unquestionably unique amongst its peers in several ways, nothing works for everyone, and everything has side effects. But yeah, I am a fan of it.
>I just remember years ago before you had ECT you were in quite a bad state whilst on Lamictal (I think) but over the last few years you always seem to come across as fairly positive in your messages.
No, I was tapering off prozac and zyprexa. Lamictal on several tries always made me much worse.
My messages might sound positive not because I feel positive, but because I have come to know that negative is an enemy. I will not play the enemy's game.
>Is this because you suffer from bipolar and are going through a fairly good period?
I don't think I'm bipolar. I guess 10 different doctors would have 10 different opinions. Well, no guess. They did. But bipolar was iffy at best.
I rarely go through a good period. Maybe once a month or so. And when I do, it usually lasts a few hours and that's it.
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> Denise
Posted by Phillipa on January 21, 2010, at 21:35:51
In reply to Re: Wellbutrin drowsiness - To Phillipa, posted by Meltingpot on January 21, 2010, at 16:19:22
Denise not sure of anything except getting old. I thought wellbutrin was the one ad bipolars could take? Love Phillipa
Posted by meltingpot on January 26, 2010, at 7:10:16
In reply to Re: Wellbutrin drowsiness » Meltingpot, posted by bleauberry on January 21, 2010, at 17:59:55
Hi,
Well I think it's good that you are doing relatively well and yet you aren't taking hardly any medication. I mean you don't seem to be in a desperate, suicidal state.
Why did you come off prozac and Zyprexa if it was helping you?
Denise
Posted by bleauberry on January 26, 2010, at 18:02:12
In reply to Re: Wellbutrin drowsiness - To Bleauberry, posted by meltingpot on January 26, 2010, at 7:10:16
> Hi,
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> Well I think it's good that you are doing relatively well and yet you aren't taking hardly any medication. I mean you don't seem to be in a desperate, suicidal state.It's just a good fake job. Lots of practice. I learned a few years ago the worst thing for a suicidal depression is to not get out of bed, to not go work, to not sit down and do a hobby even though it is totally lifeless and joyless, to give in to the monster. The monster wins and gets stronger when that happens. The brain needs to be continuously exercised and nudged in the correct direction. Sometimes that takes immense effort, as does any forced exercise. This doesn't lead to remission, but it does prevent things from getting worse, and things can actually get a notch or two better.
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> Why did you come off prozac and Zyprexa if it was helping you?They gently gradually lost effectiveness over about a year's time, after 7 decent years. Higher doses made me much worse. There was no option, my prozac zyprexa days were over.
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> Denise
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