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Posted by Lamdage22 on June 22, 2022, at 11:40:40
I read an article and they quoted a psychiatrist saying that people who think they are in contact with god need to be treated against their will. Its like hey we determine what is real and we want to force that view on everyone else. We dont even need proof. We just know.
Now I am not sure if it was meant like that, but prayer is contact with god.
Posted by SLS on June 22, 2022, at 16:43:53
In reply to Anti christian tendencies in psychiatry, posted by Lamdage22 on June 22, 2022, at 11:40:40
> I read an article and they quoted a psychiatrist saying that people who think they are in contact with god need to be treated against their will. Its like hey we determine what is real and we want to force that view on everyone else. We dont even need proof. We just know.
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> Now I am not sure if it was meant like that, but prayer is contact with god.
I don't think the issue is whether God is or is not. The issue is whether or not every instance of someone saying that they are in contact with God is evidence of psychosis needing medication and leather restraints. However, "hyperreligiosity" is a very common theme in manic psychosis.
- Scott
Posted by Christ_empowered on June 23, 2022, at 8:56:05
In reply to Anti christian tendencies in psychiatry, posted by Lamdage22 on June 22, 2022, at 11:40:40
its...troubling.
There are a couple of "Christian psychiatrists" somewhat near me. I hear they are total and complete nightmares. As in...over-medicating, pictures of Jesus on the wall, occasional self-righteous lectures...
and the -concept- is flawed, too. I mean..."Christian" xanax? get serious. the vast majority of psychiatrists deal in pills, all day long. That and sometimes shock.
but, yeah. I think...if psychiatrists were to choose to restrict their services to the severely ill, I wouldn't see a contradiction right off the bat. I don't think Jesus wants the masses on drugs, but the severely ill and disabled probably need...something, even if what's being offered are almost all palliatives.
but relatively few psychiatrists actually work with the severely ill, at least in the US. its more...maybe do a couple years working in a clinic, then private practice. or start out in private practice, and then go to a higher level of private practice, with no insurance, self pay only, extra $$$ per session for their versions of talk therapy, etc.
ugh. and then hospitals...it varies, across the US. in my general area, the approach has been fewer hospitals, fewer people put in the hospitals, shorter duration of treatment in the hospitals (except for "trouble makers," apparently...one of those was in the news recently), and then never ending, often less than voluntary treatment "in the community." ugh.
so...I do think that psychiatry and Christianity are not exactly on the same wave length, especially the sort of psychiatry I see around me. People with funds and access to resources can get into a private hospital, go to a private shrink, get less dangerous, less noxious treatment. and then...
I volunteered at a non profit for a little while. homeless people were frequent visitors. a lot of them, it seems, were on the long acting antipsychotic injections, mostly Haldol and I think the clinics were still using Prolixin, too. it was...disturbing...
more than once, someone would tremble and shake, in an EPS from an old drug way...and someone would pull out a Cogentin or whatever they use now to counteract it.
Christians who believe and have the time, money, and inclination do help people here locally. Some groups are even starting mini-communities for homeless people to live in, get healthcare, mental health care, and reintegrate into society. and then there's psychiatry...
which just injects people and gives them adverse effect pills and moves on to the next person. awesome.
Posted by Phillipa on June 23, 2022, at 9:29:49
In reply to Re: Anti christian tendencies in psychiatry » Lamdage22, posted by SLS on June 22, 2022, at 16:43:53
Yes it is Scott. Phillipa
Posted by Lamdage22 on June 24, 2022, at 10:11:36
In reply to Re: Anti christian tendencies in psychiatry » SLS, posted by Phillipa on June 23, 2022, at 9:29:49
I think in Order to call something psychotic, the evidence against that belief should be overwhelming. If it isnt, its just a false view at best, maybe even a right view.
Posted by Lamdage22 on June 24, 2022, at 10:24:39
In reply to Re: Anti christian tendencies in psychiatry » SLS, posted by Phillipa on June 23, 2022, at 9:29:49
I think in Order to call something psychotic, the evidence against that belief should be overwhelming. If it isnt, its just a false view at best, maybe even a right view.
Posted by rjlockhart37 on June 30, 2022, at 21:46:01
In reply to Anti christian tendencies in psychiatry, posted by Lamdage22 on June 22, 2022, at 11:40:40
There are christain doctors, that do believe in god or other religions, but i think in psychaitry believing in something invisable and not logical to human mind, is considered delusion. I'm defeintly know and am considered a bit crazy about the spirit world that most people consider taboo. So, with all that info, i think it's hard for some psychiatry to consider about the spirit world, and god. It's unseen, from the human eyes, and is not logical to th human brain. But anways, sometimes you just don't tell the doctor about spiritual stuff, so they won't think your crazy.
Posted by rjlockhart37 on June 30, 2022, at 22:02:20
In reply to Re: Anti christian tendencies in psychiatry, posted by rjlockhart37 on June 30, 2022, at 21:46:01
hyperreligiosity with is that i'm being watched by the devil, being studied yes - as crazy and schizo as that sounds i still have that fear feeling of being watched by the unseen relm
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